Just read the Wikipedia article on the film. Figures that it'd be a PKD story. I'm gonna have to check both of those out. And yes, the Stream does appear to be very like the Paycheck device, though I suspect the actual functionality is a bit different.
Paycheck was the movie that came to mind when I read this too. Its actually interesting to know that Ferial might not be the insightful genius everyone thinks he is. Sure, he probably is a tactical genius, but his plans only seem so insightful because he can see the future. If his plan would have failed, he can just alter it to work out.
It's more a case of my knowing how the Stream works but I don't really know anything about the Paycheck device. At the very least, it sounds like the outcome is relatively similar.
probably, Since paycheck was a visual type of device it was based on the laws of light bending around a sphere and you can't really do that across space. They could just use a super computer that you could input the amount of variances by a persons actions which would be astronomical, and then supply your own data which you could technically get very close estimations about your plans. Which would give Feral the upperhand in most fights but yet there is still enough room for variance to occur. and since he split himself up he can have one watching this "Data Stream" and telling the other two what to do and where to go. Which would have helped him tremendously. sorry for the long comment
from the previous comic one is led to believe the unrest is the virus, but this one makes it seem like the apostate is the virus and the unrest is the cavalcade…
is this something you can enlighten me on jim?
speculation:
hehe, what if the ripple is where the virus has allready been through and 'converged' with RC's problematic cavalcada??
What if Ferial is using the Unrest (the virus) and reclaimer (hes bringing the cavalcade back together) to draw something else, more powerful out? (this being the Apostate….)
Unless I am mistaken, the virus did try to converge with Reclaimer in a previous comic, when Reclaimer was traversing the Last Resort multiplayer map. The Cavalcade in his suit stopped the virus before it realised that the Cavalcade were there.
After all this virus speculation however, it is no doubt going to have nothing to do with the virus =P
Why would you be curious? You could make it however you want it too!! :p But with this dreamstate, maybe the virus could sort of beat RC and the Calvacada are trying to beat it back but RC is like well in a dream? I'll just go off and look like more of an idiot over here, sorry Jim…
Clearly they are talking of ICE CREAM and not ripple of any other sort…right? ...right…? please say yes someone
In other, more serious sense, this ISN'T EVEN REMOTELY to do with space-time continuum manipulation…which I thought it may have been. Which is why I shan't be allowed to read this at 1:00 AM…when I just wake up…
This sort of blows the theory that the Apostate is Archimedes out of the water. Or maybe not. But it seems the Ferial are either planning on killing one of their own or a calvacada member. This convergence must be a meeting between the virus, (Unrest?), Apostate (no idea, maybe Archimedes) and the Calvacda (maybe that's Apostate as in the calvacada collective) and RC. I wonder how that will turn out And who's their dupe?
Seems to me that Ferial has avoided confronting RC merely for the sake of making him a mule. I also read that the calvacada are less friendly to each other than originally assumed, that they were more dealing with each other to achieve a broader goal…?
There goes my “Dr. Emit Brown making a cameo at theclimax asking RC if ‘This is the future’ only to learn that he is still in present” theory. It was perfect too. Oh, meanwhile McFly would accept a banchee race after being called chicken by one of the Ferials only get blown up by a missle from the machine. Dr. Brown tries to go to the past to save Marty but fortunatly only succedes in renaming Melancholy properly. Also, as a side effect, RC discovered a cd in the Dilorian and ended up becoming adicted to ‘Handlebars’ by Flobots and chants it throughout the rest of the series.
Vortigaunts were originally going to be that theory but it was dismissed because they were all busy at the time waiting for Cecil and Gordon to arrive with some larval extract.
What about G-Man? I hear he's free and has nothing to do. Real cheap too! All you have to do is sit through a 3 hour speech of his…with his odd accent or lisp or whatever.
well if apostate is true to its name… Im going to go with hmmm logically Ferial would fit that description…
apostate implies something thats broken away from its religion and is opposed to it from my understanding? So otherwise it would be like a rogue AI or being.
Well the definition of apostate is "One who has abandoned one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause." So who has done that? Viper? And do we know what Archimedes actually is yet (apart from a skull)?
Well, Archimedes is actually a chip that was implanted in the skull containing the program of Archimedes proper. Now it's been inserted into key systems where it currently lies dormant. The virus piggybacked on Archimedes and is the rogue element now running rampant through various systems.
Well… looking at these guys, who hasn't abandoned something? Ferial abandoned his race, the RC abandoned the UNSC and the Cavalcade abandoned (or were abandoned by) the Forerunners.
No info on Archimedes yet, so I can't tell if it's him.
Nope, I definitely meant 'here'. They can't go back in time to change something they've done, so their actions must be modified from here forward based on their new calculations.
I've been very pleased all along with the Reclaimer fan-base. I've worked hard to weed out the chaff that periodically springs up.
is there 2 virus's or are they one and the same. Because there appears to be a computer one and a organic one. Also the one who infected the viper in the lift (map was construct?) was that the virus as well?
For some reason, my custom css was doing somthing to intense debate. It made it impossible to use any site with intense debate on it, for some reason.
I didn’t know it was possible for css to skrew stuff like intense debate up but I had to keep trying untill my post got submited. The funny thing is, my css only changed text size and link/link.hover. The other funny thing is that it started just recently.
Well, the IntenseDebate plugin for WordPress did just get updated recently, hence the reason why it was suddenly conflicting with another plugin I used and causing problems for IE7 users. I don't know what custom CSS you would have been using, but it's possible, I suppose, that it could have run into issues with some of the layout changes they made.
You know, "ripple" doesn't have to be metaphorical… what if he was talking about ripples in Slipspace? We know that the Cavalcade are strongly tied to Slipspace, and it seems that all the other characters have at some point been involved with Slipspace transportation/manipulation.
The Apostate is definitely NOT Eternal Refuge. We already know that the Refuge is an empty shatterbox. There's really nothing more complicated to it than that.
I don't think RC actually abandoned the UNSC, they are still looking for him remember. He is presumed MIA after disappearing from the Blackout Training Facility I think that's what happened anyway.
If I am not mistaken without looking back, was not the calvacada alone when this happened? I was under the impression that one calvacada could repel virus, but the combined weight of the calvacade would be exponentially a greater force to reckon with.
Hmmm, a "paycheck" like device, interesting now i see how their planning has gone so smoothly
Just read the Wikipedia article on the film. Figures that it'd be a PKD story. I'm gonna have to check both of those out. And yes, the Stream does appear to be very like the Paycheck device, though I suspect the actual functionality is a bit different.
Paycheck was the movie that came to mind when I read this too. Its actually interesting to know that Ferial might not be the insightful genius everyone thinks he is. Sure, he probably is a tactical genius, but his plans only seem so insightful because he can see the future. If his plan would have failed, he can just alter it to work out.
and generally, when you suspect something about your own comics, it generally comes true, am i right
It's more a case of my knowing how the Stream works but I don't really know anything about the Paycheck device. At the very least, it sounds like the outcome is relatively similar.
probably, Since paycheck was a visual type of device it was based on the laws of light bending around a sphere and you can't really do that across space. They could just use a super computer that you could input the amount of variances by a persons actions which would be astronomical, and then supply your own data which you could technically get very close estimations about your plans. Which would give Feral the upperhand in most fights but yet there is still enough room for variance to occur. and since he split himself up he can have one watching this "Data Stream" and telling the other two what to do and where to go. Which would have helped him tremendously. sorry for the long comment
"besides, its such a small ripple" that has that famous last words feel to it, something truly epic is going to happen soon i think
it definitely seems to be a bit of foreshadowing, i have a feeling this "small ripple" will come back to bite them in the butt.
lol "besides" always a very bad word to say
And ripples always get bigger… :p
It's a small ripple – at the moment. Like anything surrounding the Reclaimer, the ripple has the potential to grow exponentially.
Jim, did you make that ripple by using the other ferial under active camo? Thats what it kind of looks like to me, upon further studying
just a quick check
apostate is converging on the unrest,
from the previous comic one is led to believe the unrest is the virus, but this one makes it seem like the apostate is the virus and the unrest is the cavalcade…
is this something you can enlighten me on jim?
speculation:
hehe, what if the ripple is where the virus has allready been through and 'converged' with RC's problematic cavalcada??
The Unrest is the virus. More than that I won't say at this juncture.
Oh.. I think i might have it…
What if Ferial is using the Unrest (the virus) and reclaimer (hes bringing the cavalcade back together) to draw something else, more powerful out? (this being the Apostate….)
Unless I am mistaken, the virus did try to converge with Reclaimer in a previous comic, when Reclaimer was traversing the Last Resort multiplayer map. The Cavalcade in his suit stopped the virus before it realised that the Cavalcade were there.
After all this virus speculation however, it is no doubt going to have nothing to do with the virus =P
You're not wrong. The virus did try once to hack the Cavalcade and the Reclaimer's systems.
It got owned.
It got owned.
Big time. It's a wee bit smarter now, though, so I'd be curious to see how the virus would stack up against the Cavalcade now.
Why would you be curious? You could make it however you want it too!! :p But with this dreamstate, maybe the virus could sort of beat RC and the Calvacada are trying to beat it back but RC is like well in a dream? I'll just go off and look like more of an idiot over here, sorry Jim…
Clearly they are talking of ICE CREAM and not ripple of any other sort…right? ...right…? please say yes someone
In other, more serious sense, this ISN'T EVEN REMOTELY to do with space-time continuum manipulation…which I thought it may have been. Which is why I shan't be allowed to read this at 1:00 AM…when I just wake up…
Ice cream would do… ICE CREAM PARTY!!!
Ice Cream sucks. Sorbet FTW!
I like both, actually. But yes, sorbet is definitely awesome.
The virus is just Ferial's little tool I thought. I would imagine it's not one of his 'key players'.
This sort of blows the theory that the Apostate is Archimedes out of the water. Or maybe not. But it seems the Ferial are either planning on killing one of their own or a calvacada member. This convergence must be a meeting between the virus, (Unrest?), Apostate (no idea, maybe Archimedes) and the Calvacda (maybe that's Apostate as in the calvacada collective) and RC. I wonder how that will turn out
And who's their dupe?
The dupe is the Reclaimer. Ferial has manipulated him at every turn.
Seems to me that Ferial has avoided confronting RC merely for the sake of making him a mule. I also read that the calvacada are less friendly to each other than originally assumed, that they were more dealing with each other to achieve a broader goal…?
So they are thinking of killing him? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! But why, has RC not done everything according to their plan, or his he becoming more wise?
Yeah, there's no time travel happening here anywhere.
There goes my “Dr. Emit Brown making a cameo at theclimax asking RC if ‘This is the future’ only to learn that he is still in present” theory. It was perfect too. Oh, meanwhile McFly would accept a banchee race after being called chicken by one of the Ferials only get blown up by a missle from the machine. Dr. Brown tries to go to the past to save Marty but fortunatly only succedes in renaming Melancholy properly. Also, as a side effect, RC discovered a cd in the Dilorian and ended up becoming adicted to ‘Handlebars’ by Flobots and chants it throughout the rest of the series.
Vortigaunts were originally going to be that theory but it was dismissed because they were all busy at the time waiting for Cecil and Gordon to arrive with some larval extract.
What about G-Man? I hear he's free and has nothing to do. Real cheap too! All you have to do is sit through a 3 hour speech of his…with his odd accent or lisp or whatever.
It's a tool, to be sure. A key player? That remains to be seen.
I have the feeling that you yourself don’t even know how big a role it will play yet.
That's definitely a big part of why he's allowed the Reclaimer to do his own thing.
Where'd you read that bit about the Cavalcada? I hadn't seen that bit of speculation.
You… might be more correct than you realize, though it likely won't be quite what you think.
well if apostate is true to its name… Im going to go with hmmm logically Ferial would fit that description…
apostate implies something thats broken away from its religion and is opposed to it from my understanding? So otherwise it would be like a rogue AI or being.
hmmm
Well the definition of apostate is "One who has abandoned one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause." So who has done that? Viper? And do we know what Archimedes actually is yet (apart from a skull)?
Well, Archimedes is actually a chip that was implanted in the skull containing the program of Archimedes proper. Now it's been inserted into key systems where it currently lies dormant. The virus piggybacked on Archimedes and is the rogue element now running rampant through various systems.
Well… looking at these guys, who hasn't abandoned something? Ferial abandoned his race, the RC abandoned the UNSC and the Cavalcade abandoned (or were abandoned by) the Forerunners.
No info on Archimedes yet, so I can't tell if it's him.
the covenant, maybe? first time poster, reader since the beginning
but it's such a pretty skull
lol
Funny it is, spelling corrections comic from me, but where you wrote “here” did you mean “there”?
Interesting comic. I like how involved and intellectual your fan base really is. Great commenting!
Nope, I definitely meant 'here'. They can't go back in time to change something they've done, so their actions must be modified from here forward based on their new calculations.
I've been very pleased all along with the Reclaimer fan-base. I've worked hard to weed out the chaff that periodically springs up.
What chaff?
Exactly.
That he's worked long and hard for it, I don't doubt.
one more question,
is there 2 virus's or are they one and the same. Because there appears to be a computer one and a organic one. Also the one who infected the viper in the lift (map was construct?) was that the virus as well?
There is just the one virus.
The virus can infect organic organisms as well as travel through computer and digital systems.
If you can read or delete this, I finally got IE working.
YES!!!!!!!! FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!
Double post why? :p
For some reason, my custom css was doing somthing to intense debate. It made it impossible to use any site with intense debate on it, for some reason.
I didn’t know it was possible for css to skrew stuff like intense debate up but I had to keep trying untill my post got submited. The funny thing is, my css only changed text size and link/link.hover. The other funny thing is that it started just recently.
Well, the IntenseDebate plugin for WordPress did just get updated recently, hence the reason why it was suddenly conflicting with another plugin I used and causing problems for IE7 users. I don't know what custom CSS you would have been using, but it's possible, I suppose, that it could have run into issues with some of the layout changes they made.
nice comic Jim, you never fail to brighten up my day.
Always happy to provide a bright spot.
You know, "ripple" doesn't have to be metaphorical… what if he was talking about ripples in Slipspace? We know that the Cavalcade are strongly tied to Slipspace, and it seems that all the other characters have at some point been involved with Slipspace transportation/manipulation.
No, it's just a Photoshop effect. All a camouflaged character would do is block the beam.
Really? I thought you could see through them? It does look a little like that though…
The Apostate may not be Eternal Refuge? That's what the Calvacada are trying to draw out (as they are the key)
I don't know my head hurts…
The Apostate is definitely NOT Eternal Refuge. We already know that the Refuge is an empty shatterbox. There's really nothing more complicated to it than that.
You hate time travel don't you
Not so much hate it as the fact that it's overused. I prefer to write a story that uses other devices to forward the plot.
I don't think RC actually abandoned the UNSC, they are still looking for him remember. He is presumed MIA after disappearing from the Blackout Training Facility
I think that's what happened anyway.
If I am not mistaken without looking back, was not the calvacada alone when this happened? I was under the impression that one calvacada could repel virus, but the combined weight of the calvacade would be exponentially a greater force to reckon with.